Monday, August 7, 2017

Knowledge of God: Attributes of God, Part 13-Evil, Suffering, Hell



(the picture in the video is from Tim Challies)


H. Excursus on problem of evil, suffering, and the reality of hell and its consequences
1. These are the strongest arguments against God’s existence and the most brought up objection to God’s existence
2. Evil and suffering from a Christian perspective
a. 2 Corinthians 1:3-10: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.  For as we share abundantly in Christ's sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too.  If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; and if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we suffer.  Our hope for you is unshaken, for we know that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in our comfort. For we do not want you to be unaware, brothers, of the affliction we experienced in Asia. For we were so utterly burdened beyond our strength that we despaired of life itself.  Indeed, we felt that we had received the sentence of death. But that was to make us rely not on ourselves but on God who raises the dead.  He delivered us from such a deadly peril, and he will deliver us. On him we have set our hope that he will deliver us again.
b. 2 Corinthians 4:7-18: But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us.  We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our bodies.  For we who live are always being given over to death for Jesus' sake, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh.  So death is at work in us, but life in you. Since we have the same spirit of faith according to what has been written, “I believed, and so I spoke,” we also believe, and so we also speak, knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.  For it is all for your sake, so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God. So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day. For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal
3. There are 3 general forms
a. Logical: God’s existence/attributes are incompatible with the reality of evil
            b. Evidential: probabilistic argument that God doesn’t exist b/c evil does
c. Existential: not an argument, but the personal problem due to suffering or evil
                        4. Inadequate responses to the problem of evil and suffering
                                    a. Have some good, got to have some evil
                                                i. If I were the only person in the world, would I be tall?
                                                ii. Evil is a relational property; good is an absolute property
iii. God existed alone as a Trinity before creation with no evil present
                                    b. All suffering is punishment from God
i. Some punishment is natural consequence of sin; some remedial on God’s part
                        5. Logical argument
                                    a. Belief in God is positively irrational
                                    b. B/c of evil, God does not exist
c. Tries to introduce a logical contradiction b/w attributes of God and presence of evil
                                    d. Syllogism
                                                i. God exists.
                                                ii. He is omnipotent.
                                                iii. He is omniscient.
                                                iv. He is omnibenevolent.
                                                v. Evil exists.
                                                vi. A good being always eliminates evil as far as it can.
                                                vii. There are no limits to what an omnipotent being can do.
                                                viiia. Therefore, God does not exist.
viiib. Therefore, God isn’t omnipotent and/or omniscient and/or omnibenevolent.
                                    e. as Christians, we must hold to premises 1-5
                                    f. Premise 2: When Bad Things Happen to Good People by Rabbi Kushner
                                                i. Decided God was not omnipotent
                                    g. Premise 3: Open theists
i. Deny God’s foreknowledge in an attempt to excuse God from evil like the Holocaust
                                    h. Premise 4: Islam
                                                i. A God to be feared, not worshipped
                                    i. Premise 5: Christian Science, Buddhism
                                                i. Evil does not exist
                                    j. Attack premise 6
                                                i. God would have to eliminate free will (Alvin Plantinga 1970’s)
                                                ii. God will eliminate evil in the end
                                    k. Attack premise 7
                                                i. There are limits to what God can do
                                                ii. He can’t make free creatures not sin
l. Just show God’s existence is not logically incompatible with evil (moral or natural)
                                                i. Possible reason(s) evil X is allowed, not actual
ii. Skeptic then must claim omniscience themselves to answer back
                                                            -I know there is no reason for evil X!
iii. The non-theist must show that it is impossible logically that God has morally sufficient reasons for permitting the evil in the world that is due to natural disasters.
                        6. Evidential argument
a. Preponderance of evidence from evil suggests beyond a reasonable doubt that God does not exist
                                    b. Gratuitous evil
i. Natural evil: A fawn in a forest breaks its leg. 5 days later a fire starts and the fawn suffocates.
                                                ii. Moral evil: A 9-year-old girl is tortured, raped, and murdered.
iii. There are no good reasons we know of that come out of these scenarios. So, why does God allow them?
                                    c. Syllogism
                                                i. If God exists, gratuitous evil does not exist.
                                                ii. Gratuitous evil exists.
                                                iii. Therefore, God does not exist.
                                    d. Short answer
                                                i. Deny premise 2
-Requires omniscience to say that no good will arise from these evils
-Takes an inferential leap from inscrutable evil (cannot understand) to pointless evil (no reason)
                                    e. Other answers
                                                i. Soul-making defense (Irenaeus, John Hick)
                                                            -Suffering develops virtue in us
                                                ii. Free will/process defense
                                                            -God cannot make morally free creatures not commit evil
-God has allowed the world to be affected by sin (disease, natural disasters, etc.)
                                                iii. G. E. Moore shift
                                                            -Negate the consequent
                                                                        -If there is evil, God doesn’t exist
                                                                        -It is not the case that God doesn’t exist.
-Therefore, it is not the case that the existence of evil undermines the case for God’s existence.
                                                            -Build a cumulative case that God exists
-I have many good reasons, despite evil’s existence, to believe God exists.
                                                            -Frank Turek: Does God exist? (from Stealing from God)
Yes
No
Beginning of the Universe
Evil
Fine-tuning of the Universe

Consistent Laws of Nature

Reason: Logic and Math

Information (DNA) & Intentionality

Life

Mind and Consciousness

Free Will

Objective Morality

Beauty and Pleasure

OT Prophecy

Life and Resurrection of Jesus


                        7. Existential problem
                                    a. Personal, intense suffering or the remembrance of that suffering
b. Job
                                                i. The proper response
-Job 2:11-13: Now when Job's three friends heard of all this evil that had come upon him, they came each from his own place, Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite. They made an appointment together to come to show him sympathy and comfort him.  And when they saw him from a distance, they did not recognize him. And they raised their voices and wept, and they tore their robes and sprinkled dust on their heads toward heaven.  And they sat with him on the ground seven days and seven nights, and no one spoke a word to him, for they saw that his suffering was very great.
                                                ii. Bildad (3), Eliphaz (3), Zophar (2) speak in 3 cycles after…
                                                iii. Try to get him to confess his sin (suffering=punishment)
iv. Elihu says that God is teaching Job something, learn and the suffering will end
                                                            -wrong about Job, but not wrong overall
                                                            -only friend not condemned (Job 42:7)
                                                v. God’s doesn’t answer why, but who
                                                            -our power and knowledge is limited
                                                            -trust Him
                        8. The argument for God from evil
                                    a. If God does not exist, then objective moral values do not exist.
                                    b. Evil exists.
                                    c. Therefore, objective moral values do exist.
                                    d. Therefore, God exists.
                        9. The reality of Hell
a. Hell is a place of eternal conscious punishment for the wicked. (Wayne Grudem, Systematic Theology, pg. 1149)
i. conscious: Matthew 25:30: And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
ii. eternal: Matthew 25:41: “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
iii. punishment: Matthew 25:46: And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
b. Punishment in hell is variable based on the knowledge and actions of the condemned
i. Luke 12:47-48: And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating.  But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.
                        10. What can we say about the punishment of those in Hell?
a. In our treatment of the subject of eternal punishment we must remember that false doctrine is often a reaction from the unscriptural and repulsive over-statements of Christian apologists. We freely concede: 1. that future punishment does not necessarily consist of physical torments,—it may be wholly internal and spiritual; 2. that the pain and suffering of the future are not necessarily due to positive inflictions of God,—they may result entirely from the soul’s sense of loss, and from the accusations of conscience; and 3. that eternal punishment does not necessarily involve endless successions of suffering,—as God’s eternity is not mere endlessness, so we may not be forever subject to the law of time. (Augustus Strong, Systematic Theology, pg. 1035)
b. Hell is the negation or absence in the soul of all that is meant by heaven. As heaven is the fruition of all right desire, so hell is the frustration of all such desire. Heaven is the fulfilment of love. Hell is the fulfilment of selfishness. Heaven is the ripened fruit of the regenerate life which has been created anew in Christ. Hell is the reverse of all that is implied in Christian experience. As moral and spiritual causes begin to operate by faith, which in the end produce the essential elements of heaven, so also moral and spiritual causes operate in the soul through unbelief to produce the essential elements of hell. (Edgar Young Mullins, The Christian Religion in Its Doctrinal Expression, pg. 488–489)
                        11. How is it just for God to punish people eternally for temporal sins?
                                    a. All sin is against God
i. Psalm 51:4: Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight, so that you may be justified in your words and blameless in your judgment.
ii. Our fundamental obligation is to God because He is our creator, sustainer, and sovereign Lord
iii. God is the ultimate authority
iv. All other obligations derive from our obligation to God
v. Violation of any obligation is to violate our fundamental obligation to God
                                    b. God’s status as an eternal being makes rejection of Him eternal
i. Those who do not find forgiveness in Jesus Christ are guilty of an eternal sin against an eternal being
ii. Mark 3:28-29: “Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”
                                    c. It is plausible to think that people keep on sinning in hell
iii. Revelation 16:10-11: The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness. People gnawed their tongues in anguish and cursed the God of heaven for their pain and sores. They did not repent of their deeds.
                        12. What about those who have never heard the gospel?
a. General revelation in nature makes everyone morally culpable to God already (Romans 1:18-20)
b. God’s providence was done in part so that men might seek God (Acts 17:26-27)
c. If people seek God they will find Him (Matthew 7:7)
d. This makes it impossible to say that people don’t have an opportunity to believe in Jesus Christ

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